tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7393228299480080672.post7885131394499945919..comments2023-06-10T04:52:12.493-06:00Comments on MCGATE Blog: Black Ships Before Troy - part IMrs. Craighttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00589395934848399785noreply@blogger.comBlogger105125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7393228299480080672.post-15303183181086761422012-01-13T17:07:02.856-07:002012-01-13T17:07:02.856-07:00*up there on time*up there on timeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7393228299480080672.post-52827031919026811912012-01-13T17:05:36.272-07:002012-01-13T17:05:36.272-07:00I copy and pasted these from before because you co...I copy and pasted these from before because you couldn't see them. they are down there on time.<br /><br />Helen should go back to Menelaus. They would obviously welcome her back , they are fighting over her! If that guy just chose one of the other goddesses, none of this would have happened.I agree with Jack when he says the fight over the golden apple was cheesy. However, Helen should defiantly go home.<br />Scotty B.<br /><br />And<br /><br />Jack C,<br />your comment is very good only you don't address the question. I can see you worked hard on your response because it is long and good, but I would recomend writing another refuring to the question.<br />Scott.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7393228299480080672.post-65820794881423305922011-12-14T20:18:45.904-07:002011-12-14T20:18:45.904-07:00I agree with JV Helen should have gone back to her...I agree with JV Helen should have gone back to her people and she would if she could. That would have ended the war, made both sides happy and saved thousands of lives.Raleigh Darcynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7393228299480080672.post-68907131426832778352011-12-14T20:14:40.133-07:002011-12-14T20:14:40.133-07:00Yes and no because Helen liked Paris but it wasn&#...Yes and no because Helen liked Paris but it wasn't worth causing a war in which thousands of people would die. The only options that Helen has to help the situation are to talk it out with Sparta and try to stop the war or to end by going back to Sparta. Although Paris was very stupid her husband could have found another woman in Sparta. The fight for the golden apple was stupid the goddesses should have noticed that they had strengths.Raleigh Darcynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7393228299480080672.post-47695750551923533752011-12-13T23:12:42.078-07:002011-12-13T23:12:42.078-07:00Gillian,
I do not agree with you since Oenone pro...Gillian,<br /> I do not agree with you since Oenone probably wouldn't accept Paris after he left her. Also Menelaus would most likely either abuse or kill Helen which would make the Trojans mad.Lindy Pittmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7393228299480080672.post-38010696671339530482011-12-13T23:11:51.944-07:002011-12-13T23:11:51.944-07:00Gillian,
I do not agree with you since Oenone pro...Gillian,<br /> I do not agree with you since Oenone probably wouldn't accept Paris after he left her. Also Menelaus would most likely either abuse or kill Helen which would make the Trojans mad.Lindy Pittmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7393228299480080672.post-36130887985848728942011-12-13T23:05:22.314-07:002011-12-13T23:05:22.314-07:00I believe it would not have been better for Helen ...I believe it would not have been better for Helen to go back because Menelaus would have killed and then Paris would have gotten angry again and attacked the Greeks. Also there would have been a lot of resentment between the two nations for many years since so many people had already died in the war.Lindy Pittmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7393228299480080672.post-19403453070441466462011-12-13T18:39:27.386-07:002011-12-13T18:39:27.386-07:00Jack Craig- I think that you should have answered ...Jack Craig- I think that you should have answered the question more directly. I do agree on what you said and you made some very good points.<br />Max GambinoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7393228299480080672.post-78639260441711216502011-12-13T18:29:40.681-07:002011-12-13T18:29:40.681-07:00I think that it would have been for the better for...I think that it would have been for the better for everybody for Helen to return to her original people. The biggest reason would be that there would never have been the war in the first place. It could all have been stopped before Paris even met Helen. He could have just said it was a toe between the three goddesses.<br />MAXAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7393228299480080672.post-68658193436215222442011-12-08T20:02:14.189-07:002011-12-08T20:02:14.189-07:00Question.2
I think that Achilles is both strong ...Question.2<br /><br /> I think that Achilles is both strong and weak, he is very strong wile out in battle, like when he was fighting Hector he was using everything and all the strength he had, and he won. He is also sometimes not as strong as he could be, and is weak. Achilles is weak when he realizes that Patroclus is dead, he feels weak and frail after knowing that someone who was like a brother to him died. you can tell this, because when Achilles is told of Patroclus' death he "flung himself facedown beside the hearth-fire, and threw ashes and dust over the brightness of his hair." If Achilles is going to survive this battle he will have to become stronger than he is.<br /><br />Nolan SankeyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7393228299480080672.post-39231061051626843182011-12-06T10:27:17.482-07:002011-12-06T10:27:17.482-07:00I agree with you completely Anna. Helen should nev...I agree with you completely Anna. Helen should never have left Menalaus.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7393228299480080672.post-28124423628265830172011-12-06T10:22:07.810-07:002011-12-06T10:22:07.810-07:00I agree because if she went back to her people the...I agree because if she went back to her people they would stop fighting.Aphrodite might feel foolish, but people would stop fighting and dieing. Also Paris was being stupid when he went to Sparta and took Helen. He should have known that the Spartans would have felt insulted and come after her.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7393228299480080672.post-9968257042630607742011-12-06T10:15:59.551-07:002011-12-06T10:15:59.551-07:00Nikki,
I totally agree that Helen should go b...Nikki, <br /> I totally agree that Helen should go back to her people because the war would be over and in the end everyone would be happy because not as man men and other people would be dead etc.Esther DelliQuadrinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7393228299480080672.post-64720120925816960192011-12-06T10:10:26.006-07:002011-12-06T10:10:26.006-07:00I think that it was a dumb idea for Helen to leave...I think that it was a dumb idea for Helen to leave her own people but the book suggests that she is very happy with Paris. It also says that she regrets leaving her baby.Esther DelliQuadrinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7393228299480080672.post-62626730337772512142011-12-05T21:16:05.217-07:002011-12-05T21:16:05.217-07:00Charlie H,
I do not agree with you at all. I get t...Charlie H,<br />I do not agree with you at all. I get the part about wanting to hear about Achilles, but it isn't really a good thing to have a war. It destroys people and families. I think that it would have been a good thing to end the war easily.<br /><br />Maura GlynnAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7393228299480080672.post-14081458910921327512011-12-05T21:12:54.000-07:002011-12-05T21:12:54.000-07:00I thought this book was a very interesting myth. I...I thought this book was a very interesting myth. I also thought it had some stupid parts about it, such as the women fighting about the Golden Apple. I thought that it would be good for Helen to go back to Troy biceause they are her people and the only reason Helen ran off with Paris is because Aphrodite made her do so. I think the gods and goddesses should not meddle with people's lives. The only reason Aphrodite is giving Helen to Paris is because he gave her the apple, so Aphrodite is sure to give Helen to him.<br /><br />Maura GlynnAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7393228299480080672.post-5246603034420847802011-12-05T21:09:15.023-07:002011-12-05T21:09:15.023-07:00Surina,
I agree with you on how both ways would of...Surina,<br />I agree with you on how both ways would of had there pros and cons. There is evidence in the story that shows that both ways would of probably had equal effects, but I disagree on how you said that just Aphrodite caused all of this. I think it was Paris and Aphrodites fault.<br />Jaxon ernstAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7393228299480080672.post-19751945270747879102011-12-05T21:01:56.983-07:002011-12-05T21:01:56.983-07:00I think it would of been best for Helen to go back...I think it would of been best for Helen to go back to her own people. It would have stopped the war and a lot less people would have died. She also has her family there, and it would have made many other things a lot simpler. There were a lot of desicions made by people that led to the war, Helen should of stayed with her people.<br />JACKSON eAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7393228299480080672.post-24543722711678407902011-12-05T20:36:40.912-07:002011-12-05T20:36:40.912-07:00To Surina,
I agree with when you say that the reas...To Surina,<br />I agree with when you say that the reason the whole war started is because Aphrodite gave Paris a wish, but I Think that you didn't support your answers when you said that it would be good if Helen were to go back, and then you said that it wouldn't be good, and then you said That it would be good without saying why, so that left me kind of confusedJack Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01567910389411132469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7393228299480080672.post-73931937318923268972011-12-05T20:26:39.633-07:002011-12-05T20:26:39.633-07:00Dear Surina,
You do make an good agreement that sh...Dear Surina,<br />You do make an good agreement that she should return back to Menalaus but I also agree that is would create havoc if she did. So if she stays with Paris, Aphrodite well have kept her promise.<br /> -MegAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7393228299480080672.post-36582274501673935662011-12-05T20:18:39.400-07:002011-12-05T20:18:39.400-07:00I think no, it would not be best if Helen returns ...I think no, it would not be best if Helen returns to her people. I thinks this because her own people are already came mad at her for her leaving with Paris and she would make the people of Troy angry too if she left them. I know this because the book says, "When Menelaus returned and found his queen had fled with the Trojan prince, the black grief and red rage upon him." That shows her first people were mad. But when Aphrodite says to Helen, “Be sure the love (of Paris) I have shown you does not turn to hate.” it shows if Helen left than Paris and his people would be angry too. So, to sum it all up, I believe that Helen should stay with Paris and the people of Troy because it will cause as much distress. Aphrodite also says "It would be no hard thing to turn the hearts of the Greeks as well as the Trojans against you."<br /><br />Meg A. 7thAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7393228299480080672.post-73350725202748981402011-12-05T19:15:20.484-07:002011-12-05T19:15:20.484-07:00Margaret,
I agree with you completely. I think th...Margaret,<br /><br />I agree with you completely. I think that it would be smart for her to do as she said but, what about her baby and King Menelaus back home? There is also already so much tension and destruction in the war that it would be pointless to turn back now. Part of me wants her to stay, and the other part doesn't want her to. Good point abou't the short story though. That made it obvious what had to happen. <br /><br />Surina TecharukpongSurina Techarukpongnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7393228299480080672.post-85592089422533698212011-12-05T19:09:41.079-07:002011-12-05T19:09:41.079-07:00I think that it would be wise for Helen to retuen ...I think that it would be wise for Helen to retuen with Menelaus. But, at the same time if she didn't return that would also be wise. If she returned home because then the war would end. Aphrodite really caused this whole problem with granting Paris a wish. Also, if she were to return home she would be with her first husband and her beloved child. Aphrodite would then be breaking her promise which would lead to greater havoc. Either way I believe that she was breaking her promise. By Paris' standards Aphrodite is the most beautiful woman/god so Paris should get her. Overall, the wisesat choice in my opinion is for Helen to go back home with Menelaus. <br /><br /><br />Surina TecharukpongSurina Techarukpongnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7393228299480080672.post-79315901299381573292011-12-05T18:09:10.273-07:002011-12-05T18:09:10.273-07:00Andrew
I agree with Andrew because if Helen went...Andrew<br /> I agree with Andrew because if Helen went back Aphrodite wouldn't make her promise, and the other gods who didn't get the golden apple. They will know she didn't fulfill her promise and they might do something to her because they knew they would have fulfilled the promise.<br />Channing CChanning Connernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7393228299480080672.post-70663463311645435422011-12-05T17:12:30.628-07:002011-12-05T17:12:30.628-07:00Dear Mea,
I agree with you when you said that it w...Dear Mea,<br />I agree with you when you said that it was stupid for Athene, Hera, and Aphrodite to ask Paris to give one of them the apple. If this apple thing never happpened, than there would be no war and no death of hundreds of soliders. Anyway, gods are supposed to be "perfect" and it would be better if all three of them celebrated there differences and how they all have different qualities.<br />-Andrew McCawleyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com